Episode 66

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22nd Jan 2025

WELCOME TO OUR KITCHEN: Where have we been? And a possible New Year's resolution!

New Year's resolutions. They're not easy to keep. Especially when it comes to food, which is so habitual, almost ritualized in our culture. How do you break the cycle?

We're Bruce Weinstein and Mark Scarbrough . . . except without Mark. He's a brief episode to explain why the podcast disappeared for a month and why it may disappear for a bit more before we can both be back at it.

But in the meantime, Bruce has a one-minute cooking tip for you, he's got a primer on ultra-processed foods, and he'll tell you what's making him (and Mark!) happy in food this week.

Here are the segments for this episode of COOKING WITH BRUCE & MARK:

[01:49] Bruce's one-minute cooking tip: how to use your gas grill in the winter.

[02:47] Bruce's thoughts on ultra-processed foods . . . and maybe ways you can make an easy New Year's resolution.

[07:03] What's making Bruce happy in food this week: Zabar's appetizing!

Transcript
Bruce:

Hey, I'm Bruce Weinstein, and this is the podcast

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Cooking with Bruce and Mark.

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We've been away for a while,

and we're back, sort of.

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Well, I'm back alone, and a lot

of people have been writing and

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asking why there haven't been any

new episodes in the past few weeks.

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Well, we went on hiatus at the end of the

year because Mark's mom went into hospice.

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We were flying back and forth to

Missouri, where she lived, and sadly,

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we buried her on Christmas Eve.

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I mean, she was 92, and she

lived a long and happy life.

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Mark and I spent some time there, cleaning

out her home and donating as much as we

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could to local charities, and we came

home for New Year's, hoping for better

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things, and then Mark broke his leg.

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I wish I could say it was doing something

sexy, like skiing in Samaritz, or Even

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skating in Central Park, but he was out

walking the dog and went up a gravel hill,

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lost his footing, and snapped his fibula.

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So, his leg is in a cast and he can't make

it into the studio, but I'm going to do

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my best to create an episode without him.

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I've got a one minute cooking tip, I'm

going to talk about processed and ultra

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processed foods, and I'm going to tell you

what's making me happy in food this week.

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And, in a few weeks, he'll be in

a walking boot and we can record

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our regular episodes as usual.

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So here's one on my own until

Mark is back up on both feet.

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But before I get to my one minute

cooking tip, I'm going to take over

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Mark's job of thanking you for listening

to the podcast and asking you to

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subscribe so you won't miss the next

episode that Mark and I do together.

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And, we would love it if you could

rate this podcast on whatever

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We're unsponsored and your

ratings help us tremendously.

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So let's get to it.

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My one minute cooking tip.

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If you're like me and you love to

use your gas grill even in the dead

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of winter, you have to adjust your

burners to accommodate the cold weather.

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In the summer, yeah, I could turn on

two of my five burners and the grill

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will maintain 400 degrees no problem.

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I can even turn one on on one end and cook

on low indirect heat and it's beautiful.

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But in the winter, like today when we woke

up and it was 10 degrees below Fahrenheit,

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I have to turn all five burners on

and the grill can barely maintain that

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400 degrees, but I want to do steaks.

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So directly under those burners it's

hot enough to sear and char my steaks.

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But I can't think of indirect

cooking in the winter.

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It's just not enough power.

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So if you want to grill in the winter,

think about just grilling a steak,

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grilling a pork chop, grilling some

chicken and crank those burners up high.

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Years ago, Mark and I wrote a

book called Real Food Has Curves.

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It's a book that teaches you how to get

rid of the processed food in your life

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and actually enjoy eating even more.

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But we live in a world now

of Ultra processed foods.

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And they're linked to a bunch

of serious health conditions.

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And knowing what's ultra processed in your

grocery store, well, that could be tough.

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But to help, a research team at

Mass General Brigham in Boston, they

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created a website called TrueFood.

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com.

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And they break down the most and least

processed foods in your grocery store.

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They focused on three superfood

chains in the country.

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Whole Foods.

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Target and Walmart.

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And they have four different categories.

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They have unprocessed, foods that use

a processed culinary ingredient, then

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processed, and then ultra processed.

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Now, while that does seem

confusing, let's just focus on

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ultra processed for a minute.

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Because some ultra processed

foods, like protein powders, Can

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actually be part of a healthy diet.

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See, not all ultra processed

foods are created equally.

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So let's keep that in mind as we

talk about what's on their website.

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It's really nice because they take

categories that we all look for, like

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soups and pastas and meats and popcorn and

yogurt, they tell you which is the least

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processed and which is the most processed.

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So it's not surprising.

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If we look at something like pasta.

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Going for a lentil rotini, Simply Legumes

brand, organic green lentil rotini, is

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the least processed pasta in the store.

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But if you go for a macaroni and cheese

dinner, with dried powdered cheese, even

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if it's organic, like Annie's, it's one of

the most processed pastas you could buy.

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And then if you look at seafood, you know,

you get a can of chunk white albacore

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tuna in water, not very processed.

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But you get a spicy crab sushi

roll, that is going to be seriously

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processed because even though it

says crab, there's not really crab.

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You know that fake crab meat that

you can get in Japanese restaurants

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that looks like a crab leg, but that

is one of the most processed foods.

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If you go to YouTube, you can see

videos where Of how they make that.

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And they grind up fish and let's say

it's not the best fish they start with.

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And then they extrude it and

they paint it red on one side.

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So like, that's something I

don't really want to be eating.

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And even surprisingly

popcorn, you can get.

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Orville Redenbacher's

gourmet yellow popcorn.

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Not processed whatsoever.

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Or you can get some Hawaiian

style furikake popcorn puffs.

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Man, those are so processed, don't

fool yourself into thinking that

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you're having a healthy popcorn

snack when you wanted chips.

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Just go for the popcorn.

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And even in yogurt, typically you think

yogurt's not that processed, right?

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It's just milk that's been

inoculated with some bacteria to

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make it actually healthier for you.

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And you can get organic, plain,

low fat yogurt or kefir, and

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it's really good for you.

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You can go for the s'mores

vanilla, low fat Greek yogurt

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made by a couple of brands.

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And let's face it, the yogurt

part of it is not very processed.

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How are they getting that

s'mores flavor in there?

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That's highly processed

artificial flavors.

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But again, not all ultra

processed foods are created equal.

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So you don't necessarily need to

avoid all of them to have a healthy

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diet, but you want to limit them.

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So when I go to the supermarket,

I focus on produce, I focus on

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the meat department, the bakery,

and I love the freezer section.

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Because the freezer section has a lot

of great stuff, frozen vegetables, I'm

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not going to live without my occasional

ice cream, and I'm not going to live

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without my occasional onion rings.

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I mean, I'm not crazy.

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But I read ingredient lists.

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And if there are long words in the

ingredient list that I can't identify

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or I can't pronounce, then the food is

likely ultra processed and over processed.

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I'm going to look for something else.

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What's making me happy in food this week?

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Well, it's gotta be smoked fish

from Zabar's in New York City.

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If you don't know Zabar's, it's this

amazing food store and kitchen supply

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store on New York's Upper West Side.

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It's an institution.

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It has been there for, Ever.

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And my aunt is one of the most

thoughtful people and super

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generous with Mark and me.

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And when Mark's mother died and

then he broke his leg, she sent us

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a huge care package from Zabar's.

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And it had smoked salmon, it had white

fish salad, two kinds of herring,

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smoked sable, bagels and cream cheese.

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And we've been eating that for days.

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It's just so comforting.

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It is the food of my childhood.

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Now, Not Mark's childhood,

mind you, but he loves it.

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In fact, the first time he tried

smoked sable on a salt bagel

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was at my grandmother's shiva

when she died 28 years ago.

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And, yes, we have been together that long.

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And, yes, it was my

aunt's mother who died.

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And so it's kind of nice that

she sent us the same thing

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right after Mark's mom died.

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And we still have a lot left,

and I'm going to keep enjoying

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it for a few more days.

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Well, That is the first and only short

episode of Cooking with Bruce and Mark

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that I've done without Mark, and we

will be back together in a few weeks.

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And until then, please go to our

Facebook group, Cooking with Bruce

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and Mark, and let us know what's

making you happy in food this week.

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And you can also see a picture of

Mark in his gorgeous purple cast.

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So thanks for listening, and

more episodes of Cooking with

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Bruce and Mark are coming soon.

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About the Podcast

Cooking with Bruce and Mark
Fantastic recipes, culinary science, a little judgment, hysterical banter, love and laughs--you know, life.
Join us, Bruce Weinstein and Mark Scarbrough, for weekly episodes all about food, cooking, recipes, and maybe a little marital strife on air. After writing thirty-six cookbooks, we've got countless opinions and ideas on ingredients, recipes, the nature of the cookbook-writing business, and much more. If you've got a passion for food, we also hope to up your game once and a while and to make you laugh most of the time. Come along for the ride! There's plenty of room!

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Mark Scarbrough

Former lit professor, current cookbook writer, creator of two podcasts, writer of thirty-five (and counting) cookbooks, author of one memoir (coming soon!), married to a chef (my cookbook co-writer, Bruce Weinstein), and with him, the owner of two collies, all in a very rural spot in New England. My life's full and I'm up for more challenges!