Episode 67

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10th Feb 2025

WELCOME TO OUR KITCHEN: Bruce is still cooking for the ailing Mark!

Mark is still recovering from his broken leg . . . so Bruce is in charge of the podcast again. So he's up for telling you about all the cooking he's been doing in the past month as Mark heals.

Bruce has some cooking ideas for helping those healing. He's sharing his tips and secrets.

Here are the segments for this episode of COOKING WITH BRUCE & MARK:

[00:27] One-minute cooking tip: don't break your leg!

[01:21] What I am making mark while he’s recovering

[11:12] What’s making me happy in food this week? Chocolate chip peanut butter biscotti!

Transcript
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Hey, I'm Bruce Weinstein, and this is

the podcast, Cooking with Bruce and Mark.

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I'm alone, again, because Mark is

still recovering from his broken

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leg, so I'm going to take you

through a one minute cooking tip.

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I'm going to talk about what kind of

foods to make when you're not feeling

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well and when you're recovering

from things like broken legs.

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And I'm going to tell you what's

making me happy in food this week.

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So let's get started.

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Our one minute cooking

tip, don't break your leg.

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I know it doesn't sound like a

cooking tip, but as you know,

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Mark did break his leg last month

and he's still fairly immobile.

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and non weight bearing, and

no, he's not been able to cook

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anything in all this time.

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I even make his tea for him, but if

you do break your leg, be kind to

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the person who does cook for you.

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Mark is so nice to me, and in the

rest of this podcast, I'm going

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to tell you what I've been cooking

for him while he's been healing.

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Before I get to the next segment, I

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When you're sick, you need certain kinds

of foods to help you recover faster.

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Protein is huge, which is why chicken

soup is so good when you're sick.

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If you make it yourself from chickens,

the soup sets up like jelly in the fridge,

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and that gelatin is simply protein.

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All the cartilage and skin

breaks down as it boils and

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cooks, and it turns into gelatin.

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You don't get that jelly from canned or

boxed chicken soups or chicken stocks.

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You only get that when you

make it yourself from scratch.

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So I do that.

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And I'm really lucky because I have

a local farm Howling Flats Farm in

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Litchfield County, not far from us.

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And Kelly, who runs it, raises chickens.

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And I'm not sure how she sells

the chicken meat, but she always

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gets back from the processor the

carcasses with the legs and thighs

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cut off and the breast meat cut off.

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But otherwise, it's this fabulous chicken

carcass with the back, with the wings.

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And she lets me have them in five pound

packages, which come to about three

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to four chicken carcasses per package.

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And I pile them into the biggest

stockpot I have, which is

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like a 20 quart lobster pot.

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And I add onions and I add carrots

and I add parsley and dill and some

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garlic, which I know is controversial,

especially in the Jewish chicken

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soup world, but I do add garlic.

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and I fill it with water and I let

that simmer all day and by the time

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I scoop everything out, I have the

richest, chickeniest, proteiniest,

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rich broth you can imagine.

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So that is one of the things I've

been putting into all of the soups

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and stews I make them as a base,

is that homemade chicken soup.

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When I was a kid, my grandmother

always put chicken feet in the soup

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because they have a lot of protein, a

lot of cartilage breaks down, into the

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soup, and they becomes even richer.

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And while I think that richness

is really great, feet do give

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chicken soup a very particular

taste and one or two feet is fine.

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I once found a giant bag of

chicken feet at a Chinese market.

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And I thought, Oh, wow, this is going

to make the best chicken soup ever.

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So the only chicken I put in this

soup was this bag of feet and.

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Really it ended up being foot

soup and it wasn't anything I

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would have served to company.

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So if you do find chicken feet or if

you like putting chicken feet in your

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soup, I recommend limiting it to one

or two chicken feet per pot of soup.

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Otherwise, not my favorite.

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Mark asked for chicken and dumplings

the other night, and that's a lot

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of protein, a lot of dairy and fat,

which is also good for healing.

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I'll talk about that in a minute.

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I had made chicken and dumpling recipes

for our copycat books, like the Instant

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Pot copycat book and I know they have

chicken and dumplings like at Bob

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Evans and we had to come up with a way

to do that and it is sort of like a

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creamy, rich chicken stew and in those

restaurant versions, the dumplings are

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usually just almost bits of dough, almost

thick pasta kind of dough or even pie

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crusty dough that you then cook in the

stew, but that's not what Mark wanted.

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He wanted it with light fluffy dumplings

that get dropped on top of the stew

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and then they steam when it's covered

and they become really light and they

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almost fall apart and thicken the stew.

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So here's what I did.

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I had a package of those chicken carcasses

from Howling Flats Farm and I put

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them in my big 10 court instant pot.

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And I threw in a carrot

and an onion and celery.

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So here's a trick for using

celery in stocks when you're going

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to throw the vegetables away.

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I took a new whole head of celery out

and I cut off the bottom, you know, the

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part you're going to throw away anyway.

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And I threw that in the pot with the

chickens and the carrot and some parsley.

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And I let that go at high pressure,

oh, for about an hour and a half.

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It took another hour

for a natural release.

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And then when I opened it,

I took out the carcasses.

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Now, they were falling apart,

so I had to be really careful.

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And I used one of those

big Chinese strainers.

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They call them spiders.

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Well, I used that to pull out all the

chicken and I laid it out on a lipped.

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baking sheet for it to cool.

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And I pulled off all the

meat from those carcasses.

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I ended up with six cups of chicken meat.

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It was incredible.

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So now, I put a pot on the stove,

and I melted some butter, and

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I threw in chopped onions, and

carrots, and garlic, and celery.

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And I sauteed that all

up for about ten minutes.

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I really wanted to get those

vegetables lightly, lightly browned.

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Then, I threw in a couple tablespoons of

flour, and I tossed that around until the

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flour was cooked, then went in six cups

of that delicious chicken soup I had made.

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It thickened up a bit in culinary

terms that is now a velouté when

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you thicken broth without any

dairy, but this is chicken and

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dumplings, and it has to have dairy.

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And so I opened a can of condensed

milk, not sweetened condensed milk.

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It has evaporated milk.

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I used the full fat.

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I I added some fresh thyme, some fresh

sage, and I let that simmer for about 15

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minutes, threw all the chicken back in,

and then I made these amazing dumplings.

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Was just flour, and baking powder,

and salt, and sour cream, and

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melted butter, and it's just

a dough that you drop on top.

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It's almost like if you're making

a cobbler, it's that kind of dough.

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Covered it.

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Let it go 20 minutes and those

dumplings rose and became light and

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the soup was delicious and rich.

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Man, if that didn't heal his

bone, I don't know what would.

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But he also asked for another soup

and this one Killed me because he

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said make me a beef vegetable soup.

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Doesn't that usually

just come out of a can?

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So of course, it's me.

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So I had a rack of prime rib bones

in the freezer Of course, who doesn't

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and I threw them in the oven and I

roasted them at 400 degrees for an

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hour Until they were really well done

Those went into a pot with just water,

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green beans, carrots, parsnips, onions.

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That cooked for a few hours.

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All the cartilage of those bones came off.

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All the meat came off.

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I chopped up the meat,

I threw out the bones.

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When that soup was cold,

it was so jellified.

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It was like head cheese.

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I don't know if you've ever had that, but

that's like when you boil a whole head

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of an animal and all the meat comes off

and the liquid turns into jelly and you

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slice it and eat it like charcuterie.

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That was basically this

beef vegetable soup.

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But I want to go back to

talking about dairy and fat

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because I brought it up before.

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You know when you break a

bone, you need more calcium.

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And we found out that calcium needs fat to

be absorbed and do its magic in your body.

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So, while nonfat dairy has a lot

of calcium, it's not as useful

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to your body as the calcium in

full fat or reduced fat dairy.

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So, I switched Mark's morning lattes.

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from skim milk to 2 percent milk.

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He's gone from nonfat yogurt to 2%,

but I will admit I made the mistake

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of getting him sweetened vanilla

on the last trip to the store.

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Whoops, he likes plain, so he

just skipped the honey and still

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piles on the blueberries and

everything is fine in the morning.

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What else have I made for

him while he's been sick?

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Well, we did a goat tagine

with figs and olives.

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Sort of a riff on a recipe from our

book, Cooking Know How, which tells

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you how to do a whole bunch of dishes

step by step, breaks it down, there's

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pictures as you go, and I used that

tagine technique using goat stew

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meat, also from Howling Flats Farms.

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And I used dried figs and green olives.

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And that was amazing yesterday for lunch.

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Yes, just for lunch.

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I made a tray of eggplant parm.

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And yeah, pulled out my homemade

marinara from the freezer from last

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summer from the fresh tomatoes.

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Tonight we're having red.

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Cooking pork belly, which if you

don't know what that is, it's a

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Chinese traditional way of braising

meats, usually fatty meats, with

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soy sauce, which when you braise

it a long time gets on a red hue.

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But you also caramelize some sugar

and you toss the meat in that.

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You add star anise, there's cinnamon.

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I'm gonna probably put a piece of

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dry tangerine peel in it.

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It's gonna get chestnuts and parsnips

and we're gonna serve it with brown

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rice normally I think I would make

these steamed buns because then you

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could take the pork belly out and Just

sandwich it between the steamed buns,

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and I would like it better that way, but

Painkillers can cause constipation, so

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eating high fiber is really important.

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So I have a large stash of sumo

oranges, which we eat a lot of, and

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we're eating a lot of brown rice,

and I've been baking whole grain

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breads to go with all of those.

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And the other thing, it's hard because

I'm trying to balance calories and

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comfort, and it's great to have all these

wonderful foods to heal, but Mark's not

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exercising right now, he can't really

move easily, and know he does not want to

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gain much weight over these two months.

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And I will end this segment by

saying that just this morning, Mark

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said that if I ever break my leg,

I had better like scrambled eggs,

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because that's all I'll be getting.

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What's making me happy in food this week?

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Peanut butter chocolate chip biscotti.

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I have been getting Mark out of the house

every week to teach his lecture at a local

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library on Henry James and Paul Cezanne.

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Yes, he is comparing the two of them

and what they each do in their art and

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it's really an Amazing lecture series.

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We get him out into the car.

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He has a knee scooter that

helps him get into the library.

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There are no steps.

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And since I'm going every week, I'm

baking and bringing treats with me.

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And these peanut butter chocolate

chip biscotti are amazing.

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super thick, super double baked,

crunchy, crunchy, crunchy.

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And even our friend Helen, who comes to

the lectures, sent me an email to tell me

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that she thought they were life changing.

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So that's our podcast for this week.

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Thank you for listening.

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Please go to our Facebook group, Cooking

with Bruce and Mark, and tell us there

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what's making you happy in food this week.

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I know Mark would love to find

out what is making you happy.

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And if it's really good, maybe

I'll make it for him, or we'll talk

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about it here on another episode

of Cooking with Bruce and Mark.

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Cooking with Bruce and Mark
Fantastic recipes, culinary science, a little judgment, hysterical banter, love and laughs--you know, life.
Join us, Bruce Weinstein and Mark Scarbrough, for weekly episodes all about food, cooking, recipes, and maybe a little marital strife on air. After writing thirty-six cookbooks, we've got countless opinions and ideas on ingredients, recipes, the nature of the cookbook-writing business, and much more. If you've got a passion for food, we also hope to up your game once and a while and to make you laugh most of the time. Come along for the ride! There's plenty of room!

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Mark Scarbrough

Former lit professor, current cookbook writer, creator of two podcasts, writer of thirty-five (and counting) cookbooks, author of one memoir (coming soon!), married to a chef (my cookbook co-writer, Bruce Weinstein), and with him, the owner of two collies, all in a very rural spot in New England. My life's full and I'm up for more challenges!