WELCOME TO OUR KITCHEN: We're talking about ice cream trends for summer, 2025!
We all love ice cream. As our photographer, Eric Medsker, says: "Even bad ice cream is good ice cream." It's hard to argue with that!
What are the trends for ice cream in the summer of 2025. We've done the research and have the answers. Some of them may surprise you! Not only about flavors but even about how ice cream is sold in North America.
Plus, we've got a one-minute cooking tip about cooking together. And we'll tell you what's making us happy in food this week.
If you'd like to check out our latest cookbook, please find COLD CANNING at this link!
Otherwise, here are the segments for this episode of COOKING WITH BRUCE & MARK:
[01:20] Our one-minute cooking tip: Buy a second cutting board if you’re cooking with someone else.
[03:04] What are the trends for ice cream in the summer of 2025?
[19:45] What’s making us happy in food this week? Homemade kimchi and smash burgers!
Transcript
Hey, I am Bruce Weinstein and this is the Podcast
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:Cooking with Bruce and Mark.
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:And I'm Mark Scarborough.
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:And together with Bruce, we have
written three dozen plus one cookbooks.
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:Our latest cookbook, cold
Canning, is coming out in only
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:a matter of weeks at this point.
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:Hmm.
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:Small batch canning, no pressure or steam.
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:Canner needed two to three jars of say,
Blackberry Preserves or Chili Crisp.
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:Oh my gosh.
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:You should see this Chili Crisp Bruce
created that is made with Nori the.
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:Seaweed wrapper.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:It's dried seaweed.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:It has a very, uh, umami flavor, but
there's also traditional chili crisps.
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:There's dessert sauces, ketchups,
mustards, barbecue sauces.
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:What, what all is in there?
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:Triple sack LORs.
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:Liqueurs.
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:And.
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:Sane book.
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:Anything you can put in a jar and
shove in your refrigerator or a
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:freezer is in that book, check that
out wherever you can find cookbooks.
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:But in this episode of the
podcast, we're not necessarily
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:talking about gold canning.
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:In fact, we're not at all.
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:We're talking about, uh, one minute
cooking dip, as we always do.
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:We.
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:We've got our middle segment
on our summer ice cream.
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:We tend to do a summer ice cream segment
every year, and this is our big one
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:about what's big this year in ice cream.
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:And we'll tell you what's making
us happy in food this week.
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:So let's get started.
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:Bruce: Our one minute cooking tip.
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:Get a second cutting board if you're
cooking with someone else in the kitchen.
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:You know what, I'm gonna expand this.
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:Get a second chef knife,
get a second pairing knife.
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:Don't try and share your basic tools.
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:You only need one blender.
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:You only need one food processor,
but you should have multiple
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:knives and multiple cutting boards.
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:Now, let's
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:Mark: say, I'm gonna back up.
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:See, I I, I have been accused by people
of always correcting you, but I'm still
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:gonna back up and say, I vindicated.
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:I'm always being vindicated.
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:A second knife is a matter
of economic privilege.
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:So let's just say that it is easier
to get a second cutting board mm-hmm.
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:Than it is to get a second knife.
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:Bruce: I will say that is true,
except you can't even get a
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:knife at your local supermarket.
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:They sell them and they're inexpensive.
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:You don't have to get the
most expensive $400 knives
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:Mark: you can, but we must acknowledge
that even a $40 or a $30 knife
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:is sometimes a budget buster.
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:For some people it can be.
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:So a cutting board can be a $10
expenditure, which is more in the
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:realm of feasibility, and it does keep
you fighting in the kitchen if you
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:cook with someone on a regular basis.
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:Okay, that's our one minute
cooking tip for this week,
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:including, I guess my correction.
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:I have, it has been pointed out
to me that I do that frequently.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Have I pointed it out?
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:Um, before we turn to the big central
segment of this podcast, our summer ice
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:cream segment for 2025, let me say, it
would be great if you could subscribe
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:like a great podcast or fun podcast.
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:Us keep this podcast away from
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:So just doing so helps us
along and it is the way that,
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:in fact, you can help us out.
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:So let's get on to the big central
segment of this podcast, our
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:2025 summer ice cream segment.
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:Bruce: I am gonna start this with a
quote from my favorite photographer
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:and good friend Eric Medsker,
who has shot a lot of our books.
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:Know Why, according to Eric Medsker.
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:Even bad ice cream is good ice cream.
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:Mark: And then what he means by that
is even the cut rate store brand
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:ice cream is still good ice cream.
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:'cause
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:Bruce: ice cream is a food group, a
category and necessary for life itself.
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:Clearly right.
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:So
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:Mark: Eric, as he says, even
bad ice cream is good ice cream.
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:So, um, there you go.
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:But we wanna talk about some of the
trends that are out there this summer.
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:And you may know some of these, and some
of these are actually predictive of next
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:summer, if you can believe it or not.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:So the first big trend
is vegan ice creams.
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:And these are ice creams made with.
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:Oat milk, almond milk, cashew milk.
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:These have become what a huge
component of the supermarket shelves.
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:Bruce: They really have.
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:It used to be that the only kind of
milk alternative that was in vegan ice
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:creams was soy milk and coconut milk.
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:Right?
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:Then Oatley came out with oat
ice cream a few years ago, and
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:cashew milk, but a combination of
these nuts and grains is what's.
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:Improving the texture and the flavor,
these ice creams across the board.
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:Mark: Yeah, I, I, I can honestly tell
you that although I love ice cream and
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:agree with Eric that no ice cream is a
bad ice cream, I can actually say that
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:I actually elect and choose the cashew
almond, the cashew mix ice creams mm-hmm.
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:In the supermarket, even
over the dairy ice creams.
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:I, I don't have any
problem with dairy, but I.
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:I choose it because I actually
love the texture of them.
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:Yeah, I do too.
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:Bruce: The Ben and Jerry's vegan
ice cream, some of them made
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:with coconut, some are made with
oats, some are made with cashew.
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:And I look for the ones made with cashew.
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:'cause for me, those are the
chewies and I love chewy ice cream.
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:I just think, to me, that's what makes a
good vegan ice cream is there'd be chewy.
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:Mark: Okay, so get this, there's a
Swedish company and I know I'm gonna.
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:Butcher the name DUG, and I'm
sure it's pronounced Duke or
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:Duke, but I'm just gonna say Doug.
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:Doug drinks.
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:Oh, Doug.
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:Who?
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:Doug drinks.
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:His name
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:Bruce: is a sentence.
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:Maybe it is
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:Mark: DUG.
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:Uh, and spelled that
as initials in Swedish.
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:Anyway, this Swedish company has
patented this year, uh, processed
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:for potato based vegan ice creams.
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:Oh, super
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:Bruce: carbs.
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:It's like french frying ice cream.
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:Yes.
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:Finally
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:Mark: french fries and ice cream together.
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:I have no idea what that means.
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:I doubt it means french fries,
but they have catch of ice cream
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:because potato base, oh, stop.
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:They have created a potato base
and a lot of marketers are right
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:now claiming that potato and sweet
potato, they're not the same thing.
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:It's a whole question of one's a
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:Bruce: tuber.
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:One's a rhizome.
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:Yeah.
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:It's a
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:Mark: whole botanical question,
but for now it's just.
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:Say that many marketers claim that
potato and sweet potato ice creams
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:will be the big thing next year
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:Bruce: when you boil it down and
just take the starch out of it.
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:They both do a similar kind of
thing, although sweet potato starch
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:is more gummy Yes and sticky, which
actually probably would make an
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:amazing ice cream, and I think that's
probably what they're talking about.
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:And not using the whole sweet potato
with that sweet potato flavor profile.
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:No, no, no.
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:They're talking
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:Mark: about the starch.
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:There already are.
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:Sweet potato.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Ice Thanksgiving ice creams on the market.
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:But this is talking about using
potatoes and sweet potatoes to create
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:a base for a billion other flavors.
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:Yeah.
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:I think there are potato ice creams
that Duke drinks have developed already.
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:Or you know, eat chocolate chip
and you know, standard flavors.
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:Mint chocolate chip and stuff like that.
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:Well, if
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:Bruce: you're doing a potato based
ice cream, a standard flavor,
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:better be butter and scallions.
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:Oh, stop and sweet potato.
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:Oh, stop.
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:Mark: Okay.
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:Stop.
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:Why wish you always make
fun of what I bring up.
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:I'm not making fun of it.
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:Bruce: I think that would be good.
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:See
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:Mark: if I correct you.
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:It's because you make fun of me there.
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:I've justified.
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:Okay.
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:So sweet potato ice cream.
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:Sounds amazing.
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:The next big, uh, category here,
uh, in this year are probiotic ice
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:creams, and I actually can tell you
that I have not tried any of these.
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:I don't know much about them except
I do know that they're sales.
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:Are jumping over and over again.
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:And let me just say before,
Bruce weighs in here that
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:there are two basic companies.
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:There is a company called Culture Republic
that sells ice cream at Kroger's stores
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:across the United States, and there's.
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:Alex ice cream and they make
a line called the Culture Cup.
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:And all of these are probiotic ice creams.
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:So I'm
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:Bruce: assuming these are just a
natural progression from frozen
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:yogurt because frozen yogurt, I'm
think so, has probiotics in it, but
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:yogurt has very specific probiotics.
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:And I'm assuming these
are different probiotics.
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:They are.
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:They're, and these are more varied and.
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:Offer different things
for your gut health.
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:Mark: Yeah.
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:It's not just keefer or
cultured buttermilk or yogurt.
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:While those things are in fact
out there with their probiotics
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:included in them, these are, uh,
ice creams that include various kind
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:But there is a problem here, right?
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:There is a problem with these, and that
is you should really check on the claims
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:Yeah,
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:Bruce: you need to see what their.
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:Active cultures are right, and of course,
once you put it in the freezer, they,
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:probiotics don't die in the freezer.
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:They slow down, they stop being active,
but then when they're thawed, many of
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:these bacteria come back to life and
can still work inside your system.
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:So you have to make sure that during the.
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:Cooking process for the ice cream, if
the ice cream was heated to a pasteurized
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:level, that the probiotics were not
killed so that they were added afterwards.
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:So that
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:Mark: they're still active.
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:If you go out to the Culture Republic and
the Alex, a LEC apostrophes, the Alex Ice
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:Cream, uh, websites that look at Alex Ice
Cream's, culture Cups, or the Culture of
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:Republic Wine, you'll see that they detail
their manufacturing process, and you
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:might want to investigate that a little.
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:If probiotics are really important
to you, you, I mean, Alex Ice
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:Cream in their Culture Cup series.
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:Makes flavors like chocolate
covered strawberry and dark
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:chocolate honeycomb crunch.
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:Lots of really wild and delicious flavors.
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:But again, you just wanna
investigate how they get the
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:probiotics into the ice cream.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Like, do they add it after
they create the cost?
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:Do they add it during the process?
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:You know, it's a whole question.
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:Bruce: And do you know whether these are
all dairy ice creams or are these some
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:Mark: alternatives?
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:They're all dairy, as far as I know.
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:These are a cow dairy.
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:These are all D Yes.
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:Utter ice creams.
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:Well, but udders come
from other animals too.
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:Well, I know, but they're all
utter ice creams in their own way.
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:Okay.
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:So that's the second big
trend is probiotic ice creams.
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:The third one, uh, has to
do with global flavors.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Bruce: I love global flavors, and some
of the ones that we're talking about
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:are chili laced blood orange ice cream.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Black sesame ice cream,
which is huge matcha.
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:Leechy.
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:Now, to be fair, I was able
to get Leechy ice cream even
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:down in Chinatown In New York.
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:Yeah.
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:In the seventies and eighties.
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:So that, but it is
becoming more mainstream.
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:Especially
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:Mark: matcha.
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:Yeah.
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:And, uh, black Sesame, which
is a favorite ice cream flavor
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:across many Asian cultures Yeah.
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:Is now making a huge inroad into US
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:Bruce: culture.
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:All sorts of Asian fruits
and spiced flavors are really
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:Mark: They are.
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:So, he is a question for you, Bruce.
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:Who's the chef in our duo?
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:We've written three ice cream books.
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:We wrote the Ultimate Ice Cream book.
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:We wrote the Ultimate Frozen Dessert
book, and we wrote this book, ALA
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:Mode, in which we paired ice cream
at a dessert in every single recipe.
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:And my question to you is those
books were written, I don't know,
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:So how would this trend affect
what we did in those books?
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:Bruce: That's a really great question.
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:I'm gonna go backwards in
those books because ALA mode
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:That book was probably the most expected
flavors of ice cream in any of our books.
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:It's the chocolates, the vanillas,
the lemons things paired to go with
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:pies and crisps and other desserts.
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:The ultimate frozen dessert book
wasn't about ice creams, but about
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:So I had a little more fun with flavors.
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:I think there is a lemon poppy seed
in there and some interesting things.
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:But if you go 20 years back to our first.
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:Book The Ultimate Ice Cream book, which
is actually our bestselling book to date,
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:sold more copies than the Insta Pop Bible.
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:We tried to really go over
the edge a little bit.
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:We have a corn ice cream, and I
have yet to see a recipe for me too,
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:for corn ice cream anywhere else.
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:Me too.
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:There is sweet potato.
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:There is a sesame ice cream.
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:So we did try and push it a little
bit, but I can tell you that I didn't.
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:Go over the top.
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:Mark: I have to tell a
story about that, please.
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:So Bruce was on the Today Show
with the Ultimate Ice Cream
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:book, uh, when it came out.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:And he was on with Bobby Flay.
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:They weren't on together, but they were on
the same, uh, episode of The Today Show.
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:And Bobby Flay was quizzing
Bruce about ice creams in the
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:green room before they went on.
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:And Bruce brought up this corn ice cream,
I believe you were even demoing it.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:John Segan thrower was gonna taste it.
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:Right.
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:Okay.
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:So, um, Bobby Fla wanted to know all
about corn ice cream and what that was
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:like, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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:And it wasn't two weeks later
that corn ice cream showed up
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:on the menu of his restaurant.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:I got a.
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:Big splash from reviewers mm-hmm.
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:Of oh, this great thing.
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:Corn ice cream, who could have imagined
such a crazy thing except for Bobby Flay.
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:And I have to say, it sounds bitter,
but uh, I know where he got that idea.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:I know exactly where he got that idea.
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:Didn't even
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:Bruce: offer us a come dinner.
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:Man, that's Bobby Fla for you.
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:Yeah,
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:Mark: I, well, I don't know if
that's Bobby Flay for you, but at
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:least that's what happened then.
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:So we've talked about vegan ice
cream's, probiotic ice cream's, global
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:flavors, and the big single biggest
story about ice cream in:
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:Mm-hmm.
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:It is the big thing.
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:Not only salt caramel, I know
you know, already know that.
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:But there are.
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:Salt chocolate ice creams.
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:There's, I even saw in researching around
for this episode, I saw a manufacturer
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:making salt, strawberry ice cream, salt,
strawberry shortcake, ice cream salt
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:crystals, whether they're pink himalaya
or black Hawaiian, or just regular salt.
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:It is the single biggest thing in
:
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:Bruce: I'm wondering now about
just a salt ice cream without
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:another flavor behind it.
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:Oh, no.
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:What?
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:You just had like a sweet cream, ice cream
with chunks of black salt or pink salt.
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:Mark: Wow.
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:I don't know.
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:I think my, my nephrologist
and endocrinologist would have
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:What if, what if we
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:Bruce: went real crazy and did.
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:Garlic salt ice cream.
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:Oh no.
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:Or celery salt ice cream.
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:Mark: Oh, what do y celery soda ice cream.
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:Um, if you can have a salt
bagel, why can't you have
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:sweet cream, salt ice cream?
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:Uh, 'cause of the sugar content.
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:That's why.
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:But I do think that salt presents
problems with the freezing and texture.
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:Right.
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:Bruce: Well, it's going to change.
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:The freezing point it's gonna have
means you're gonna have to go.
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:Colder before it freezes, which means
the ice cream is going to have a softer
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:consistency right, than other ice
cream, which is kind of a nice thing.
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:Adding a little salt gives you a softer,
more delicate, more gushy consistency.
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:Mark: There's a, there's an ice
cream, a local little small ice cream
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:maker buy us in New England and they
make salt, caramel ice cream, and it
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:doesn't have ribbons of caramel to it.
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:It's just all homogenous.
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:So it's as if it's all been blended into
one base, the salt, caramel ice cream.
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:And I love it because no matter where
you put it in your freezer and how
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:long it sits in your freezer is always
slightly soft when you pull it out.
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:It's the salt.
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:It's that thought.
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:It's just the salt.
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:Okay, here's the fifth big trend for 2025.
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:And this may shock you, but the bulk.
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:Of ice cream sold in North America, that
would be in the United States and Canada.
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:Not counting Mexico.
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:I don't know what happens in Mexico,
but I can tell you in the United States
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shops is now sold in the smallest.
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:Size available.
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:Now we're not talking about
just about the tasting spoon.
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:I don't think they
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:Bruce: sell those.
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:Whatever
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:Mark: the location claims is,
it's small, is now the number
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:one seller at most locations.
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:About 10 years ago we saw that
over the counter ice cream sales
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:This is now the big trend.
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:It is dropped fully to the small.
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:Does
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:Bruce: it surprise you?
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:It doesn't surprise me.
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:No, it doesn't because here's why.
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:Because sizes have gotten so big.
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:Yes.
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:That people are afraid to order
anything bigger than a small Yeah.
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:Because smalls have gotten so big.
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:Okay.
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:Tell
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:Mark: Tell the Carville story.
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:Tell it.
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:Tell it.
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:So
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:Bruce: my sister was visiting from
California and she and I grew up.
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:In New York, and we grew up with carve
ice cream and she doesn't get it very
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:Mark: if at all
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:Bruce: they were out here, we had gone
out to dinner, she and her husband,
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:and Mark and me, and we had gone
out for a Peruvian dinner, right.
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:We'd eaten so much fried fish
and so much stir fry with french
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:fries in the stir fry, right?
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:As the Peruvians will do, right?
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:We were stuffed beyond stuff and on
the drive home we passed a carve.
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:Well, of course we stopped it.
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:They're known for their
soft serve ice cream.
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:And Mark has never had it.
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:Nope.
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:And we said to Julia,
what size do you get?
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:So we got the cones and the person started
to pump the soft serve into the cone.
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:Yep.
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:He pumped about a foot and a half.
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:It
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:Mark: was bigger than my head.
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:It was bigger than my head.
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:And I was, that was the medium.
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:Stuffed and I got in the car and yes, to
my discredit, I ate the whole thing and
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:I spent the rest of the car ride back to
our house in rural New England saying,
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:I'm gonna roll down the window and vomit.
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:I'm gonna roll down the
window and vomit the
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:Bruce: three of you did you,
Julie and Mike were all like,
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:let's see who could vomit first?
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:It was
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:Mark: disgusting.
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:The medium was so giant.
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:Bruce: Doesn't surprise me.
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:No, it doesn't.
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:That doesn't, people
are ordering smalls now
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:Mark: and in fact, when I think about
stopping in at our local ice cream
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:stops and there's lots of them around
us in New England, I always think about
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:stopping in and getting one scoop and
if anything stops me, it's the thought
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:of, oh, what if I get two scoops
and I don't need to get two scoops?
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:I know that sounds funny,
but I can totally get the
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:idea of the small being the.
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:Currently best selling
size in any ice cream shop.
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:Okay, and our final trend.
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:Is eco packaging.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:And you may be surprised to know that this
is a trend, but it is showing huge growth.
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:And what we're talking
about, uh, are compostable.
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:Compostable, how do you say that?
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:Compostable, compostable, compostable,
compostable compost containers.
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:I should know, right?
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:PhD in English.
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:Anyway, compostable.
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:It's been a long time.
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:Contain.
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:It has been a long time since then.
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called Bogas, which is a product, a
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:Believe it or not, consumers
are looking for eco packaging.
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in everything, not just in ice cream.
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getting too full, right?
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ice cream and throw that container
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vegetable scraps and my leftovers, and
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with a lot more products.
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packaging as actually a factor in the
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I think it shows, just to say that
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Gen Z, you're probably older than that.
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particularly in people.
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looking for eco packaging and they
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:It is an interesting trend.
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:I don't think any of us at my
age could have predicted it, but
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:Bruce: In fact, Ben and Jerry's
has switched to plant-based.
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:It'll make me go into a Ben and Jerry's,
as will their vegan cherries, Garcia ice
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say that Ben and Jerry's has switched
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they hand you a conant now to just.
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wax coating is harder on the landfill.
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100% recycled paper products.
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:Mark: Yeah.
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:So this is all part of the growing
trends in ice cream, vegan ice creams,
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salt, small sizes in eco packaging.
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:That's what's happening in
the ice cream world in:
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:Before we get to the last segment
of this podcast, let me say it.
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:Is just great that you're along with us.
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:We thank you very much for choosing
us in the podcast landscape and it
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us because we like you to be with us.
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:As is traditional, the last
segment of this podcast, what's
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:Bruce: I made kimchi.
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:Yesterday I went to the store and got
a big head of Napa cabbage and I didn't
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red radishes and I shredded those up.
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fish sauce and gochugaru.
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:The Korean chili flakes And I made
my paste with glutenous rice flour.
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and it is packed in a jar.
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as is the recipe in our book
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for another week to have kimchi.
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:Mark: Yeah, you made the recipe
that's in the book called Canning.
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:But if you're interested in the
kind of kimchi Bruce made, you can
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called Clicking Bruce and Mark, and
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but a vat of kimchi.
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:This is back in the day when
we would do it in the vats.
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:This he made, uh, based on two
course a similar recipe from Cold
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its proportions and I can't wait.
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to begin to get a little sour.
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it's just like dressed salad.
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:Mark: spicy.
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:Bruce: Yeah.
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:Very spicy there.
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there is one whole cup of go jugar
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:Mark: flakes.
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:Oh, that's the red hot
Korean chili flakes.
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:Uh, it'll be nice and spicy, but
again, you can ferment in the fridge.
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:Bruce made burgers and
I had smash burgers.
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listen to this podcast, you know I'm
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smash burger is totally well done and I
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:You really can't put cheese on a blood
red raw burger because it doesn't melt.
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it, and I had it the old fashioned way.
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you know, I like burgers raw with,
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:These were smash burgers with lettuce,
tomato, mustard, and mayonnaise.
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:This is how I grew up.
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on a burger when I was a child, my
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say, I raised you better than that.
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tomato, cheese, smash burgers.
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:What can I tell you?
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:Okay, so that's the podcast.
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:For this week, thanks for
being a part of this podcast.
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:As I said before, we
appreciate your being with us.
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:Bruce: Mark mentioned our YouTube
channel, cook Me with Bruce and Mark.
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:We also have a TikTok channel,
also cooking with Bruce and Mark.
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:Lots and lots of videos there of
me cooking of Mark cooking, of
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:doing stuff from our new book, cold
Canning Us talking about our lives.
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:So check that out and find out more
about us and what's going on in our lives
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:here at Cooking with Bruce and Mark.