Episode 89

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21st Jul 2025

WELCOME TO OUR KITCHEN: The biggest trends in burger toppings for 2025!

Burgers! What are they without their toppings? Let's talk about the most popular trends for burger toppings in 2025!

We're Bruce Weinstein & Mark Scarbrough, veteran cookbook authors of thirty-seven cookbooks (plus Bruce's knitting books and Mark's memoir!).

We're going to get Bruce's honest reactions to the most popular burger topping trends for 2025. Plus, we've got a one-minute cooking tip for better drinks this summer. And all about sour cherry jam and home-grown currants.

If you'd like to get a copy of our newest cookbook, COLD CANNING, please check it out at this link right here.

Here are the segments for this episode of COOKING WITH BRUCE & MARK:

[01:20] Our one-minute cooking tip: Refresh the ice in your ice maker.

[03:20] What are the most popular burger toppings for 2025? Mark lists them for Bruce to see his reaction!

[18:40] What’s making us happy in food this week? Sour cherry jam and home-grown currants!

Transcript
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Hey, I am Bruce Weinstein and this is the Podcast Cooking with Bruce and Martin.

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And I'm Mark Scarborough.

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And together with Bruce, we have written, as you well know, 36 plus 1 37 cookbooks.

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The plus one is out just about now called Canning, small Batch

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Canning, and Preserving with.

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Out a pressure or a steam canner, you can make two jars of strawberry jam.

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You can make two jars of pickle relish.

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You can make two jars of kimchi, one larger jar of kimchi.

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You can store them in the fridge, and many of them in the.

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Freezer indefinitely, and you don't have to worry about pathogens.

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You don't have to worry about giant processing.

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You don't have to worry about hair net.

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You don't have to worry about setting up an industrial cooking line, and you don't

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even have to worry about the apocalypse because you're not trying to survive it.

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You're just making a couple jars of something that's delicious

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that you wanna set back and enjoy over the next month or so.

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So check out our new book, cold Counting in this.

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Episode of Cooking with Bruce and Mark.

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We've got a one minute cooking tip.

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We are gonna talk about hamburger toppers and the current craze for what

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they are and what goes on burgers.

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Given that it's summer, um, we have a special way we're gonna do this.

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I'm gonna talk about that when we get to it and we'll tell you what's

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making us happy in food this week.

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So, uh, let's get started.

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Our one minute cooking tip, and I'm not doing it, mark, is okay.

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I am.

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And that is.

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Refresh the ice in your ice maker.

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If you haven't thrown the ice out in your ice maker in three

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months, please throw it out today.

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I can't believe we have to tell people that

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I know, but the ice in your ice maker gets, as they say, stale.

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That is the official bartending term stale

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rancid.

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Ooh, okay.

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Rancid isn't.

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But it does get stale.

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You know what it does, especially if you have a self defrosting freezer, it starts

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to clump together in big, icy birds, gross inside your, just gross your, uh,

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ice ice tray or wherever it dumps out to.

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And also, not only that, it does pick up refrigerator odors over time.

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So

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when you put the kimchi in there, you're gonna have kimchi ice.

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Yeah.

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So right.

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Throw it out about every four to six months.

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Get, get in there and just.

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Dump out that tray.

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Ours is in a tray.

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I don't know how yours is a bucket, however it dumps.

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Dump it out and let it start again.

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And by the way, if you haven't changed the filter on your fridge in a while,

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maybe it's time to do that for the water.

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Can't

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believe we have to tell people that too.

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I know, but so it goes.

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Okay.

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That's our one minute cooking tip.

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If you want better iced tea, better drinks.

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Better.

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I don't know.

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Frozen drinks.

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Better daiquiris this summer.

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Just change the ice in your ice maker.

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All right.

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Before we get.

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To our main segment about Burger Toppers In this podcast, let me say

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that we do have a TikTok channel cooking with Bruce and Mark.

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You can check out there the two of us we're making all kinds of dishes

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into on TikTok, and we're also beyond that talking about us, how we met.

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Oh, it's a whole story.

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Thing so you could check.

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It's fun.

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It is.

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You could check us out on TikTok and believe it or not, it's called

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Cooking with Bruce and Mark.

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Aren't we clever?

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Um, there's even a YouTube channel called Cooking with Bruce and Mark,

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but the TikTok channel is much more active, so check that out if you

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want to find out more about us.

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All right.

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On to the next segment.

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Of this podcast,

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we're gonna talk about the most popular hamburger toppers these days.

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Mm-hmm.

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And this is based on the trends that are out there.

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What are people ordering across Canada and the United States, and even into the uk?

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I did a lot of research for this, and we're gonna do this in a strange way.

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I know what these things are, and Bruce.

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Doesn't.

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So I'm gonna, I've got the list right in front of me.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I'm gonna read off the list and Bruce is gonna react to these things

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and whether this is a decent thing to put on a burger or not, I'm gonna weigh

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in with color commentary, but, uh, we're gonna kind of do this with, Bruce

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doesn't even know what's happening.

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Okay.

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So we get his honest reaction.

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So, you ready?

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This is Sure.

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Based on all kinds of.

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Surveys based on restaurant menus, based on marketing, looks across

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burger restaurants and across recipes published online, published in, uh,

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databases, Epicurious, places like that.

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Like what are people searching for?

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And also, I can tell you I did a little bit of Google

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keyword search on this mm-hmm.

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To make sure that this is really what was going on.

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Alright.

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Please tell me peanut butter, jelly and caramel sauce is one of the

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topics.

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No, it is not.

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And why Mark and I,

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why would you

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say that?

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Because Mark and I went.

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Out to dinner once in New England with a famous food writer.

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Yes, she was an older woman,

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really famous at the time, food writer.

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She has since passed away.

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She

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has, and she invited us out to dinner and took us to one of her favorite places

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and she ordered the special, which was a burger, which had peanut butter and

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jelly, and a caramel dipping sauce.

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That is just perhaps this is why she passed away.

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It's so disgusting.

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I can't even get my, my brain.

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That's why I brain wanted to make

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sure that's on

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there.

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No, it's not.

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Okay.

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Up first.

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Here's the first one.

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Ready?

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Mm-hmm.

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And this is the most popular current hamburger topper

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beyond lettuce and tomato.

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Okay.

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Onion rings.

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Yum.

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First of all, they're crunchy, and crunchy is good.

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Um, as long as they're not too breaded.

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'cause if there's too much breading, then it's bread and a bun.

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Now I can imagine getting rid of the buns and just holding onion rings on the top.

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Oh, what, how, how?

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I don't know.

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I would just do it.

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I, I don't know how you do

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that.

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Well, actually.

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There's a place in New England called Plan B Burger Bar, and I went there

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by myself last summer and had lunch.

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One day I was delivering something to somebody and I had a burger

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sitting at the bar that had barbecued sauce and onion rings.

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So I know firsthand that that's fabulous.

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Okay,

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um, so here's my Clic commentary.

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Ready?

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Mm-hmm.

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Gross.

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My color, Terry is gross because I love onion rings.

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Mm-hmm.

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Beyond the pale.

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I love onion rings.

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I want them to be super crunchy, and I fear that if I get them near a

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hot steamy patty or near ketchup or barbecue sauces or whatever you put on

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your burger, they're gonna get soggy.

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Well, there's a

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way.

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There's a technique.

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Well, there's a technique to eating them.

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You don't put the other stuff, the mayonnaise and mustard, the ketchup.

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On the burger, but

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the burger's hot, that's it's

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steamy.

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That's, they still stay crunchy because the bun absorbs it,

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not their onion ring coating.

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And then you have a pile of the sauce and you dip each bite in it

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as you eat it, not not buying it.

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It works.

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Do not destroy my onion rings.

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It works.

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Do not adulterate them in anyway.

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Okay.

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And second, the second biggest trend right now on burger topping is a really

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old fashioned classic, and that is chili.

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Mm, A chili burger.

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I used to eat chili burgers back in college.

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What I don't like about them is you have to eat them with a fork and a knife.

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Ooh.

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How European?

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You can't

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pick them up.

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Oh my God.

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How French have you.

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But then

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you also have to have some raw onions, because that's the

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only way a chili burger works.

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Oh, my stomach.

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Oh, my stomach.

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And then the other thing is, and this is a. Bigger question

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about toppings in general.

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You cannot, and I will not allow you to put chili on a rare burger.

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'cause the texture combination is disgusting.

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It has to be a well done burger.

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'cause think about that texture of biting into a rare burger, right?

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Woo.

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With the chili?

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No.

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So that's a bigger question.

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How do these toppings change?

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Based on whether you like your burgers, medium, rare, or well

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done, and especially in Canada where they're not allowed to serve

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anything, but well done burgers, right?

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Well then maybe chili works.

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Okay.

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That third is again, a huge old fashioned topping for burgers.

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It's been around for forever.

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The third major thing this summer, based on all this marketing

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and keyword search is bacon.

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Yes, but not alone.

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Bacon needs something else.

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You can't just put bacon.

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I mean, I loved bacon Swiss cheeseburgers when I was in college.

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That was what I ate in New York City diners all the time.

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But I have to say that no matter what you put in a burger, ketchup is a given.

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Right?

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So ketchup with bacon and Swiss cheese, yum.

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That is a fabulous combination.

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Yeah, I do like bacon, but it has to be with something else.

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I

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don't.

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I don't eat burger with bacon.

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Bacon.

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Here's my color commentary.

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And it's not because I don't like it, it is just it, it seems to

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be overkill, but um, I know Bruce loves it, but my problem is.

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It if, if I do have a bacon cheeseburger, let's say once every five years, if I

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have one, um, the bacon just can't be, um, for lack of a better word, flacid.

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No.

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It has to be so sharded up that when you bite it, it crunches otherwise,

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otherwise you bite it and it doesn't.

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Bite and you pull the whole strip of bacon out with each bite.

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No, it has to be super crunchy.

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It's funny, I don't like super crunchy bacon with eggs, but only on a burger.

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Yeah, but on burgers.

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Yes.

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That's true.

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I agree.

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Okay, I agree.

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So I already know the answer to this one from Bruce.

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Oh, you know what my, I know exactly what, so I do know you without a question.

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So, uh, it must be mayonnaise.

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No, it's dev.

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It's uh, it's a devil de ew.

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I wish there was a vomit bucket in the studio.

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Deviled eggs should never have been invented.

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They should be wiped off of hard boiled eggs.

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Let's start with hard boiled eggs.

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Okay?

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I have seen you

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eat eggs on a burger.

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I've seen you eat fried eggs on a burger

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Different.

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Different.

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That's a, that's a runny, runny yolk.

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I do not like a cooked yolk.

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Once you cook the yolk to solid, it is inedible it.

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Okay.

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So why, as my dog would say, you're giving me poison.

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Is that what your dog says?

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My dog.

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My dog says that.

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Okay, so why would, let's just think for a second.

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Why would someone put a deviled egg on a hamburger?

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But it's like

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putting egg salad.

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That's why.

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I guess that's right.

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It's like putting egg salad, except there's not as much pickle

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relish and that kind of thing.

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At least in the egg salad.

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I knew as a kid, but I guess I, it's probably for the creaminess.

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Once you smush it down in the bun, it's gonna smush out and get the YI can.

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Okay.

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I can imagine and I wouldn't eat it.

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I can imagine the innards of a deviled egg, the yolk part spread on

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a burger, but I cannot, well, come on.

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It's mayonnaise, it's mustard, it's, it's, you're pushing all my buttons.

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Um, well, I can imagine that, but I just can't imagine that white,

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and I just can't imagine the bite.

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And I'm back to the rare burger versus the well done burger.

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Well, okay, that's, it's a textural

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thing.

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Okay.

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But.

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It's not your textural thing, so you don't have to worry about it.

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Let me worry about rare burgers since you don't eat them.

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So, okay, there you go.

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Um, here's another one.

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This is a little bit surprising and it's a riff.

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It's a modern, I think, millennial riff off of an old topping, and that is aioli.

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Hmm.

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Interesting.

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It's mayonnaise based.

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I'm, you see there,

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there's the old riff.

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It's mayonnaise.

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I,

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I'm not a mayonnaise fan.

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I don't like mayonnaise on things unless it's mixed with things

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like, I like Russian dressing.

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I like tuna salad.

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I like salmon salad and whitefish salad, chicken salad.

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But I would never in a million years put mayonnaise on bread.

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It's just gross.

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Okay.

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Um, that's fair.

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I guess I don't, I I like mayonnaise on burgers.

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So aioli, my problem would be the garlic that's usually in aioli and

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I would think it would overwhelm the burger, but I, I would certainly try it.

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Okay, here we go.

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Here's another one.

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But this one is very common in our house and uh, I already know

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what you think and that is kimchi.

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Uh, kimchi is good.

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It's not my favorite.

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It's your go-to.

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You like it with mayonnaise.

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I, I love it.

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Beyond compare on Burger?

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Yeah.

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I mean, when Mark does his kimchi and mayonnaise, I always do, um,

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chili crisp and sweet pickle relish.

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That's my go-to combination.

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Um, kimchi iss great.

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I love kimchi.

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Yeah.

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I could put it on a burger.

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Yeah.

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And spicy.

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That's what I like is that it's spicy and a little fermenty and it's umami.

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I like all of that.

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We

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were at this place in Dallas once visiting Mark's parents' hop

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daddies, and I had a burger that had.

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Um, pork belly, it was,

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I love the burgers at

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hopped outies.

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It wasn't bacon, it was thick cut, super crispy pork belly

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and kimchi, and it was really

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good.

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I mean, they have a range of burgers at Hopped outies.

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Mm-hmm.

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And if you're near one, I think they've even expanded outside of Texas.

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Now, if you're near a hopped outies and we are not supported by them,

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I can definitely say try hopped because their burgers are spectacular.

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Mm-hmm.

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Okay, so here's another, now very current Koran topping, and that is chutney.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Any kind of chutney on anything?

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I'm a chutney fiend.

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So just

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in case, uh, somebody doesn't know what is chutney?

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Think about jam now.

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Add spices and vinegar

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and drop the sugar dramatically.

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Yeah.

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Well, they could be sweet, but they're not as sweet as, as most jams.

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Yeah.

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Don't

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think about jam.

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Think about.

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I don't know what you're right.

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Jam.

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But,

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but, but that's a texture of jam.

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It's fruit and sugar.

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Add

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lots of ginger and aromatic and lots of spices.

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Think

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Indian spices, think coriander and think garlic and ginger and mustard seeds.

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What would you add

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with.

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Chutney to a burger.

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Chutney and cheese are a classic combination, and I can actually

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imagine a slice of Bri and some plumb.

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Chutney Wow.

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On a burger.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Well, it's now you got it up to a $20 burger.

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Wow.

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Okay.

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A slice of Bri.

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Mm-hmm.

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Well, I, I would try it.

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Okay.

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Here's one that does not come from the United States, and you will know instantly

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that this is not from the United States.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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But a major.

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Topping this summer for burgers in another place.

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Mm-hmm.

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Is Lime Pickle.

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Oh, that's gotta be the uk.

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Well of course, because you know the Raj and all that and they've adapted

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everything from India of course.

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So Lime Pickle is a pickle is just a, some kind of a preserve from India.

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And this is limes.

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Including the rind that has been pickled with salt and spices.

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Super sour.

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Super sour, not very sweet, super sour, not very sweet, and it's a really

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super salty,

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interesting, interesting idea to put lime pickle.

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I would put that on the top and then I might put something sweet on the bottom.

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I, I. I mean, I can imagine, since we're gonna be in the UK for a second,

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I can imagine Branston Pickle better on a burger than, than Line Pickle.

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But that's thing You're pickle going.

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Sweet again.

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Branston Pickle is, um, ru Yeah, but the, the, the sauce on it is molasses and it's

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a dark brown sweet Raisiny molasses with.

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Chopped up vegetables.

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Yeah, I can imagine.

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Branston pickle.

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See of course me, I would put Branson pickle with mayonnaise

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and I would probably, of course put kimchi back on it again

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with the branston pickle.

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Why?

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Yeah,

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why not?

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I mean, just go crazy.

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Okay, so here two, we got two more yet to go, uh, for your reaction.

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And, uh, a very current topping for burgers is pesto.

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Hmm, sure I could do it.

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And we're talking now, not pesto, with pasta and not pesto.

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No mixed potato.

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Just pesto.

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Right.

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I can imagine.

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Sun dried tomato pesto.

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Even more than basil pesto.

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Oh,

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you're getting fancy.

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All right there.

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But I

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can see it and I can, here's, here's where I'm gonna go.

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I can even imagine mixing either of those pestos.

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With some mayonnaise and putting it on the burger.

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All right.

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I can probably imagine that.

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I can imagine pesto on a burger.

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I don't think I would choose it.

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Mm. I think it's a little bit too out there for me.

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And the thing about burgers is most of us, at least in North America,

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we grew up with a kind of burger.

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And we kind of stick to that.

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Now, I did not grow up with mayonnaise and kimchi burgers, but I certainly

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grew up with cheeseburgers with lettuce and tomato and mayonnaise and mustard.

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So there's this kind of a childhood thing.

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Mm-hmm.

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People grew up, for example, with ketchup, with burgers, and they don't want to

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pull away from ketchup with burgers.

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Back in the eighties there was this chain restaurant.

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French bistro chain restaurant in New York, and I used to go there for lunch

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all the time with my best friend and I would get their steak hase countryside,

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oh my God, with steak hase, chopped steak.

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It was a burger on a plate.

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And their idea of countryside is they topped it in the French version of pesto.

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It was a garlic and.

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Parsley and butter mixture as opposed to basil and garlic and olive oil.

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And so I grew up eating this fabulous burger steak.

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I love the steak, steak ache, countryside.

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I love the, the, the French word shoved and attache just means chopped up.

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So steak and then countryside.

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Countryside.

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I, I so pretentious.

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That's unbelievable.

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I, I was still eating hot dogs, so what did I know?

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Okay, and here's our.

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Final topping, uh, for burgers that is very popular this

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summer and that is hummus.

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Oh no.

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The texture's

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all

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wrong.

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It's too thick.

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Mm. It's too you.

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No, that's Nope, nope.

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I'm gonna say nope.

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No matter what flavor hummus it is, it's wrong.

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Chocolate chip hummus is, I say now sell the dessert.

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Hummus.

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Because

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you could make a burger out of chickpeas.

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Right?

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You can have a chickpea burger.

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That's right.

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You can.

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So I feel like I'm you.

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Why didn't you just put hummus on the bun and top it with ground beef?

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I feel

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like the problem with hummus is it would have to be, as you've

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already indicated, sort of, it would have to be an an extremely.

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Thin layer.

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Mm-hmm.

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I would not choose humus on online burger at all.

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No.

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Nope.

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But I think if it got very thick it would just get so gushy.

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Mm-hmm.

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That it would be hard to deal with.

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Um, I now

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maybe the chocolate hummus, I don't know.

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Oh, stop All those dessert humus is, I remember the first time I

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saw dessert, hummus is in Wegmans.

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We were shooting, uh, an episode for QVC and we were down in Pennsylvania and uh,

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we went in this big Wegmans to pick up.

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Car snacks for the ride back from Pennsylvania to New England.

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And we passed the hummus and there was snicker dole hummus.

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Mm-hmm.

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And chocolate chip hummus.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I remember taking a picture and posting it on my socials because I was

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like, what in the hell is this, that someone would make snicker doodle hummus?

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Is this in?

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Insane.

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So, um, yeah, I don't think I'm one for hummus on a burger either.

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Mm-hmm.

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I, I don't think so.

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I can kind of imagine.

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No, I was gonna say, I can kind of imagine hummus on a hot dog, but

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No, I can't even imagine it there.

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Oh, gross.

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No, it's a category mistake.

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Yeah, it does seem like a category mistake in cooking.

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Okay, so there's our toppings.

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For burgers for this episode.

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Bruce didn't know the list before.

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IL it up onto the podcast and loaded it up into it so that we got his

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honest reactions to everything and my color commentary since I

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already knew what all this was.

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Um, I hope that you thought about what we like and maybe you'll write in and

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tell us what you like on a burger.

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We have a face.

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Book group called Cooking with Bruce and Mark.

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We'd love to know what you prefer on your burgers, and if any of

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these toppings absolutely grosses you out, we'd love to know that.

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You can see that the deviled eggs is the one that Bruce just freaked

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out over of all of them, but, um.

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Just, no, I'm just imagining that first bite with a half a devil.

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There go.

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Oh, just, no.

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I'm imagining how much it's on my lap, in my lap and how much it's on my shirt.

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Anyway.

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Okay, so we'd love to hear from you at the Facebook group

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Cooking with Bruce and Mark.

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Let's get to the traditional last segment out the podcast.

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What's making us happy and food this week?

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A friend called me the other day and said she was going to a friend of hers to pick

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sour cherries in the friend's orchard.

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Did I want to come along?

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Well, that's a no brainer.

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Of course.

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I went along and not only did I go that day and pick three quarts of sour

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cherries, I went back two days later and picked another six quarts of sour

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cherries, and let me say that you picked all this and she picked, and other people

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had been picking, and this woman had two

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trees.

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It's just two trees produced.

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So much.

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So I spent about three hours at the sink pitting each one of these little

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bright red cherries, and I made 10 jars of sour cherry preserves.

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Oh, it's

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so good.

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I had five times the recipe from our book, cold canning and was

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good.

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So you, you canned it shelf stable.

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You, you did it the old fashioned way.

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I did, but

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the same proportions.

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It's the recipes in the book.

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It, it works.

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It's delicious.

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There's nothing like sour.

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Cherry preserves.

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It

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is a really delicious and fine thing to eat.

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I think that one of the things that's making me happy this week is that not only

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did Bruce go over and, uh, harvest from this person's house, uh, but we've been

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harvesting around here and we grow white.

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Currents, red currents grow.

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You grow, you're the gardener.

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Okay, we grow.

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Let me have it.

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White currents, red currents and black currents, or as you might

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know them, cais, uh, the French term for the black currents.

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And we grow all three of those currents at our house.

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Uh, we also grow blueberries, but those aren't near ready yet.

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But, uh, I harvested.

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All of the current bushes this last week.

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And I have to say that there was something very zen about it.

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If you know about harvesting currents, they grow in little Juul like strands

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of multiple of them on a stem, multiple of each of the currents on a stem, and

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you kind of have to strip each stem with your fingers and a lot of the

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stems, of course, over time lose all but one or two of the berries that are.

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I guess they're berries, right?

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Berries hanging there.

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But you kind of have to work very diligently and slowly.

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It's not very easy to pick cards.

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Mm-hmm.

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'cause you, you do it by kind of your fingertips and you're trying to hold

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them in the palm of your, and not squeeze them right before you dump it

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'em a bowl and then fill up the palm of your hand again with the next one.

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It takes a while and you have to kind of zen out and get into it.

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And I did, and I loved it.

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I. There was a catbird that was very angry at me that kept kind of flying

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near me as I was picking the red cards.

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Stop eating my currents.

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It said, because I needed to get out there and pick them because this catbird was

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having a meal every day of red currents, and I needed to get, uh, as many of

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the berries off the bushes as I could.

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I could tell you just to say that I did leave.

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Some on the bush for that bird, and they are in fact slowly disappearing.

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Mm-hmm.

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The white currents I left nothing.

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They're too precious.

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I took them all out and I was able to currents make two jars most.

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Yeah.

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I was able to make two jars of white current jelly out of what you got.

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I haven't touched the black currents yet and can't wait that maybe this afternoon.

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Okay, so let me say as we finish up this podcast that it would be great

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if you could rate this podcast, give it a dare, I say a five star rating,

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and if you could write a review for it, that would be terrific.

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Thanks for doing that.

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That keeps it fresh in the algorithms, which is everything

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these days and apparently more and more with coming of ai.

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You should know, we guarantee you 100% that nothing in this

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podcast was AI generated.

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I did my own.

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Google keyword searches for those hamburger toppings.

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I did not feed it into chat GPT and my

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reactions were genuine.

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That's right.

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I did not feed it into

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clawed, I didn't feed it into any of the AI content generators.

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In fact, I never have for this podcast.

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So we can guarantee you 100% that we are the real deal and we are

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not using AI to create our lists.

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And I can tell you we're not using AI on.

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About the Podcast

Cooking with Bruce and Mark
Fantastic recipes, culinary science, a little judgment, hysterical banter, love and laughs--you know, life.
Join us, Bruce Weinstein and Mark Scarbrough, for weekly episodes all about food, cooking, recipes, and maybe a little marital strife on air. After writing thirty-six cookbooks, we've got countless opinions and ideas on ingredients, recipes, the nature of the cookbook-writing business, and much more. If you've got a passion for food, we also hope to up your game once and a while and to make you laugh most of the time. Come along for the ride! There's plenty of room!

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Mark Scarbrough

Former lit professor, current cookbook writer, creator of two podcasts, writer of thirty-five (and counting) cookbooks, author of one memoir (coming soon!), married to a chef (my cookbook co-writer, Bruce Weinstein), and with him, the owner of two collies, all in a very rural spot in New England. My life's full and I'm up for more challenges!