Episode 69

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24th Feb 2025

WELCOME TO OUR KITCHEN: What's up with eggs?

What's up with eggs? What's happened to the supermarket?

Bruce is on his own for this episode, since Mark is still recovering from his broken leg.

Join us for a fun and informative podcast about food and cooking!

Here are the segments for this episode of COOKING WITH BRUCE & MARK:

[00:36] Our one-minute cooking tip: bake some breads in a heavy, superheated Dutch oven.

[02:31] What’s going on with eggs?

[12:56] What’s making Bruce happy in food this week? Decaffeinated coffee from Mexico!

Transcript
Speaker:

Hey, I'm Bruce Weinstein, and this is

the podcast Cooking with Bruce and Mark.

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Mark is just learning how to walk

again after breaking his leg.

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He's just starting to do stairs.

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So we've got one more episode with me

before he gets back to the studio and

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joins me for all this cooking fun.

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But today I have got a

one minute cooking tip.

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I'm going to talk all about eggs and

what is going on in the world with

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eggs, and I'm going to tell you what's

making me happy in food this week.

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So let's get started.

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My one minute cooking tip, My

one minute cooking tip, bake your

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free form breads in a covered

Dutch oven, not on a baking sheet.

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What do I mean by free form?

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Not the loaf bread you put in a loaf pan.

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I'm talking about a round loaf, a French

boule, or even a braided round loaf, or a

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small braided oval, like a small challah.

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But you want to make sure that your

Dutch oven is going to be big enough.

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to hold it.

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So here's what happens.

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The Dutch oven is heated in your oven

at 400 degrees for about an hour.

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So it gets super hot and

you've made your dough.

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You've let it rise.

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You've shaped it.

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You let it rise again.

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Now, instead of baking it on

a baking sheet, you put that

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risen loaf of dough Into that

superheated Dutch oven immediately.

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It will spring up as it does in a

professional oven and get significantly

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bigger than it would in a baking tray.

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Second, it's a closed system because

you put the lid back on it and that

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lid was in during the preheating.

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So the lid is hot.

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So we'll create some steam and that

steamy environment delays the crust

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formation, allowing it to get.

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Even bigger.

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So try that and see if you like baking

your bread in a covered Dutch oven.

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before I get to the next segment

of cooking with Bruce and Mark,

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review Okay on to our next segment.

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What's up with eggs?

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Eggs are all in the news, right?

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Everywhere you look, it's eggs.

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It's on social media.

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It's on the news.

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It's in the papers.

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Prices are through the roof.

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Last week I went shopping and

almost all the eggshelves in

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my supermarket were empty.

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And what was there was 13 a dozen.

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That is kind of nuts.

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Now this week I went shopping and

there were more eggs and prices

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had come down a little to about 20.

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And I know that that's a lot

to pay for eggs, but why have

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the price of eggs been so high?

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Well, it's because of outbreaks of a

highly pathogenic avian influenza, or

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bird flu, and cases have significantly

reduced the United States Egg laying

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flock, and that's causing a shortage

of eggs, which is raising prices.

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But here's the thing.

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This bird flu has been

out there since:

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And that's why egg prices have been

up and down for the past three years.

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This isn't something new.

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This has been coming in waves, right?

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And it's estimated that more than

136 million birds have been infected.

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by the avian influenza in the

last three years since:

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In December, there were over

18 million birds affected.

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And in the U.

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when the flu is detected at a farm,

sadly, the entire flock is culled.

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And that means that

they are all destroyed.

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And then the farm is disinfected.

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And so what does this mean besides

the lack of eggs in your supermarket

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and the prices going through the roof?

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Well, more and more eggs, believe it

or not, are being found at both our

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southern and northern border crossings.

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and being taken away from

people yep, egg smuggling.

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But why isn't the bird flu and egg

shortages a big problem in Canada?

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Well, there's a bunch of reasons why.

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Let's start with the fact

that Canada has so many fewer

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people than the United States.

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320 million people here in the U.

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It's hard to produce food for this many

people without Giant industrial farms.

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So in Canada, they have smaller

farms and Canadian poultry farms

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are not only smaller, but it means

if an outbreak occurs, it affects a

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smaller number of birds and limits

the potential economic impact.

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Also, the farms are spread out.

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There's so much land in Canada

versus how many people that the

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geographical distribution of

these farms really helps prevent.

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the rapid transmission between flocks.

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So you're not going to get a farm

in one place getting bird flu and

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then the farm, you know, half a

mile down the road getting it.

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They're really spread out.

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Also Canada has strict.

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regulations.

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And Canadian authorities implement strict

biosecurity measures to monitor and

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control potential outbreaks on farms.

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And also, their culling

practices are different.

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Well, here, we might have to wipe out

an entire farm with millions of birds.

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If avian flu is detected on an egg

laying farm in Canada, Canada, sometimes

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the infected birds can be culled

without the entire flock coming out

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and that helps prevent further spread

and monitoring and surveillance.

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Canadian public health agencies closely

monitor avian flu both domestically and

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globally and that's something we're just

not quite doing as much in this country.

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So that's why People are trying

to smuggle eggs in from Canada.

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Now, one of the benefits of living

rurally, and Mark and I live very rurally

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in New England, is that we can go to

local farms and local backyard farmers

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who have chickens and they have eggs

out in coolers on their front porches

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and at the ends of their driveways.

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And there's been a bit

of an egg war recently.

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In our area and in our town and

eggs were 5 a dozen from these local

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farms and some of them organic.

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And all of a sudden I've been

seeing people crossing out the

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five and putting 4 a dozen.

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Everybody is trying to beat

out their neighbors and getting

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my money for their eggs.

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And it's really kind of fun

because you could see the chickens.

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They're running around

one of the farms near us.

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All she has are Guinea fowl, which are.

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In French, pintade.

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And they run around the roads,

and luckily I've never seen

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any hit by cars on the roads.

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People are very careful.

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And those eggs are delicious, and

they're beautiful, and they're 5 a dozen.

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So I've been stocking up

on those kind of eggs.

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There's a lot of weird

news going on about eggs.

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, there's a butcher in Bed Stuy in

Brooklyn, Prince Abu's Butchery,

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and two weeks ago they handed out

200 dozen eggs to New Yorkers Free.

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And their feeling is eggs are a staple.

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Everybody needs them.

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And they wanted to make sure

that people in their neighborhood

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were still able to get eggs.

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New Yorkers lined up for their free eggs.

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And, also, in New York, go into any of

the thousands of bodegas in New York City,

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and let me tell you, there are thousands.

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And you will find many selling

eggs in packages of three.

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Little, three little

eggs for three dollars.

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That's one dollar an egg, which is

about twelve dollars a dozen, which

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is about what they're costing in the

supermarkets up here, but this is nice,

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so you only have to buy three eggs.

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You don't have to buy a whole dozen.

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And people are not only smuggling

eggs, people are stealing eggs.

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Last month there was the theft of

one 100, 000 eggs of Pete and Jerry's

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organic eggs in Pennsylvania and they

were stolen from one single store chain

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and it is insane a hundred thousand

eggs So what's happening about this?

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Well to mitigate the shortage Turkey,

the country of Turkey, they have

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begun exporting approximately 33

million pounds of eggs to the U.

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to help.

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This is part of a preliminary

agreement between our countries and

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it will continue through July of 2025.

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So some of those eggs you may be

getting at your store are actually

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from the country of Turkey.

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And while I'm talking about eggs, how

about some fun egg facts for the day?

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about eggs, how about some fun

egg facts Did you know that an

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eggshell can have As many as 17, 000

pores, yep, eggshells are porous.

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And when the chicken lays the egg,

they're coated in a protective

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layer that sort of seals those.

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In many parts of the world, a lot

in Europe and Asia, they do not wash

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the eggs before they sell them, so

eggs can be kept at room temperature.

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In the U.

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eggs are washed, so because

they're porous and that Protective

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layer's been washed off.

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We have to keep them in the fridge.

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And did you know that an egg shell and

an egg yolk color have no effect on

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the taste or the quality of an egg?

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Nope.

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That's just about what

the chicken was eating and

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the breed determines the egg color.

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Some are brown, some are white, some lay

blue eggs, green eggs, even pink eggs.

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However, chickens that lay brown

eggs tend to require more feed to

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produce their eggs, so that's why

brown eggs sometimes are a little

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bit more expensive than white eggs.

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And did you know it takes a chicken

24 to 26 hours to produce an egg?

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Which is why, in the height

of laying season, a chicken

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can produce an egg a day.

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And, although ostrich eggs are one

of the largest bird eggs known to

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us, Kiwis, a much smaller bird, lays

the largest egg in relation to its

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body size of any species of bird.

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And when it comes to the number of eggs

laid each year, Iowa leads the nation with

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almost 15 billion eggs produced annually.

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Ohio, a close second, with

8 billion eggs a year.

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And Finally, about eggs.

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This has been an internet

favorite for the past few weeks,

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and this is cracking me up.

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You scroll through TikTok and Reels

and Facebook and Instagram, and you

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see this headline, Scientists Find

the Perfect Way to Boil an Egg.

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Now, maybe you haven't seen that.

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Google it if you haven't,

but I see it in my feed.

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And the truth is, to make a really

good hard boiled egg is difficult.

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Why is that?

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Because the yolk and the white

cook at separate temperatures.

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65 degrees centigrade or 150 Fahrenheit is

the most perfect texture for an egg yolk.

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185 Fahrenheit, that's 85

centigrade, is the most perfect

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temperature for an egg white.

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Boil an Egg and You end up getting

a slightly overcooked white or

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a slightly undercooked yolk.

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So, here's what happened.

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An Italian scientist and

his team figured it out.

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They used math and the knowledge

they gained from working with them.

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Plastic foams.

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Yeah, you heard me.

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Plastic foams to invent something

they're referring to as periodic cooking.

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Periodic cooking has you flip the egg

between boiling water and room temperature

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water, about 85 degrees Fahrenheit

or 30 Celsius, every two minutes.

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And you keep doing that

for a total of 32 minutes.

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Now with this rapidly shifting

temperature you end up with this

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incredibly beautiful boiled egg.

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Now do you want to spend

32 minutes boiling an egg?

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I don't know, that's up to you.

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What I usually do is I put an egg in

boiling water for minutes, I turn

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off the heat, I set the pan aside, and

I let it sit for another four minutes.

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That, to me, gives me a perfectly

set white, the yolk is slightly

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jammy in the middle, and I absolutely

love a boiled egg done that way.

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In fact, that is just about the

only way I will eat a boiled egg

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when the yolk is a little jammy.

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Once it's cooked all the way, it's not

my favorite, so I am not a fan of your

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egg salad or of your deviled eggs.

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My husband is though, and I

make them for him all the time.

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Our last segment of the podcast, what's

making me happy in food this week?

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Believe it or not, decaffeinated

coffee from Chiapas, Mexico.

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A few months ago, I decided to give up

caffeine and I thought it was going to be

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really hard, but surprisingly, I didn't

go through any of the headaches or any

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of the nervousness that people claim.

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I'm a little tired and it gets

harder to wake up in the morning,

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but I have found this amazing Swiss

water process decaffeinated coffee

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from Southern Mexico that is.

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is just fabulous.

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It's a dark roast.

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I do it in my espresso machine.

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I have a latte with that every morning,

sometimes in the afternoon too, because

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for me coffee is not about waking up.

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It's about the flavor.

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I just love coffee.

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So what's making me happy is a

beautiful Decaffeinated Mexican

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coffee from the south of Mexico.

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And if you want to try it, go ahead.

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Tell me what you think about

decaffeinated coffee from Mexico.

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So, that's our podcast.

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We talked about baking

bread in a Dutch oven.

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I talked endlessly about eggs

and what's going on with eggs.

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And I talked about decaffeinated coffee.

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Please go to our Facebook group

Cooking with Bruce and Mark and

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tell me what and tell us what's

making you happy in food this week.

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We tell you every week

what's making us happy.

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We want to know what's making you happy in

food this week and we might even try it or

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certainly talk about it here on the next

episode of Cooking with Bruce and Mark.

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About the Podcast

Cooking with Bruce and Mark
Fantastic recipes, culinary science, a little judgment, hysterical banter, love and laughs--you know, life.
Join us, Bruce Weinstein and Mark Scarbrough, for weekly episodes all about food, cooking, recipes, and maybe a little marital strife on air. After writing thirty-six cookbooks, we've got countless opinions and ideas on ingredients, recipes, the nature of the cookbook-writing business, and much more. If you've got a passion for food, we also hope to up your game once and a while and to make you laugh most of the time. Come along for the ride! There's plenty of room!

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Mark Scarbrough

Former lit professor, current cookbook writer, creator of two podcasts, writer of thirty-five (and counting) cookbooks, author of one memoir (coming soon!), married to a chef (my cookbook co-writer, Bruce Weinstein), and with him, the owner of two collies, all in a very rural spot in New England. My life's full and I'm up for more challenges!